I installed a new set of drop targets on Meteor, they are the hooded (aka chicklet) style from Planetary Pinball.
For the M-E-T-E-O-R targets at the top, each drop target switch is opened when the target is up and the switch closes when the target is is in the down position.
When I press the credit button to start a game, the following sequence occurs:
The METEOR targets reset up and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible)
The sequence 2-2-2 targets reset once and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible.
The next next two alternate indefinitely (until I power off the game):
The bank of 1-1-1 drop targets are reset, they fall down
The bank of 3-3-3 drop targets are reset, then they fall down
My top questions areSounds like you bought a pile of defective targets. The 1, 2, and 3 banks should all rest on the ledge upon reset, while the Meteor targets rest on a finger connected to a relay armature. Are the targets warped, or is the area where the target rests not cut deep enough?
(1) How to keep the targets from falling back down after they are reset?
(2) Should I not use hooded style targets (i.e. use tombstone style instead?)
(3) Should I replace the coil sleeves for each of the four reset banks?
(4) Do you typically need to replace the target return springs when
using new drop targets? If only some of the targets were functioning bad, I would think this would be the case but since they all suck I think not.
On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 11:56:51 PM UTC-4, Mark wrote:
I installed a new set of drop targets on Meteor, they are the hooded (aka chicklet) style from Planetary Pinball.
For the M-E-T-E-O-R targets at the top, each drop target switch is opened when the target is up and the switch closes when the target is is in the down position.
When I press the credit button to start a game, the following sequence occurs:
The METEOR targets reset up and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible)
The sequence 2-2-2 targets reset once and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible.
The next next two alternate indefinitely (until I power off the game):
The bank of 1-1-1 drop targets are reset, they fall down
The bank of 3-3-3 drop targets are reset, then they fall down
I just looked at Planetary's site, and they're showing Chiclet targets, but calling them hooded. Not certain what they are selling, as no one had new Chiclets, unless Planetary had a mold made.My top questions are
(1) How to keep the targets from falling back down after they are reset?
(2) Should I not use hooded style targets (i.e. use tombstone style instead?)
(3) Should I replace the coil sleeves for each of the four reset banks?
(4) Do you typically need to replace the target return springs when
using new drop targets? If only some of the targets were functioning bad, I would think this would be the case but since they all suck I think not.
Sounds like you bought a pile of defective targets. The 1, 2, and 3 banks should all rest on the ledge upon reset, while the Meteor targets rest on a finger connected to a relay armature. Are the targets warped, or is the area where the target rests not cut deep enough?
For the record, these are not Chiclet targets. Chiclets do not have the hood. Tombstone targets are Ballys.
Jim
On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 9:52:42 AM UTC-4, Gott Lieb? wrote:
On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 11:56:51 PM UTC-4, Mark wrote:
I installed a new set of drop targets on Meteor, they are the hooded (aka chicklet) style from Planetary Pinball.
For the M-E-T-E-O-R targets at the top, each drop target switch is opened when the target is up and the switch closes when the target is is in the down position.
When I press the credit button to start a game, the following sequence occurs:
The METEOR targets reset up and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible)
The sequence 2-2-2 targets reset once and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible.
The next next two alternate indefinitely (until I power off the game):
The bank of 1-1-1 drop targets are reset, they fall down
The bank of 3-3-3 drop targets are reset, then they fall down
http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TG-METEOR13A-11My top questions are
(1) How to keep the targets from falling back down after they are reset?
(2) Should I not use hooded style targets (i.e. use tombstone style instead?)
(3) Should I replace the coil sleeves for each of the four reset banks?
(4) Do you typically need to replace the target return springs when
using new drop targets? If only some of the targets were functioning bad, I would think this would be the case but since they all suck I think not.
Sounds like you bought a pile of defective targets. The 1, 2, and 3 banks should all rest on the ledge upon reset, while the Meteor targets rest on a finger connected to a relay armature. Are the targets warped, or is the area where the target rests not cut deep enough?
For the record, these are not Chiclet targets. Chiclets do not have the hood. Tombstone targets are Ballys.
Jim
I just looked at Planetary's site, and they're showing Chiclet targets, but calling them hooded. Not certain what they are selling, as no one had new Chiclets, unless Planetary had a mold made.
Jim
http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TG-METEOR13A-11
http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TG-METEOR13A-11
They are Bally targets and don't have the extra 'finger' that Stern targets have that hold them up, so no, they wont work if they are as shown in the photo.
http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TG-METEOR13A-11
They are Bally targets and don't have the extra 'finger' that Stern targets have that hold them up, so no, they wont work if they are as shown in the photo.
I installed a new set of drop targets on Meteor, they are the hooded (aka chicklet) style from Planetary Pinball.
For the M-E-T-E-O-R targets at the top, each drop target switch is opened when the target is up and the switch closes when the target is is in the down position.
When I press the credit button to start a game, the following sequence occurs:
The METEOR targets reset up and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible)
The sequence 2-2-2 targets reset once and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible.
The next next two alternate indefinitely (until I power off the game):
The bank of 1-1-1 drop targets are reset, they fall down
The bank of 3-3-3 drop targets are reset, then they fall down
My top questions are
(1) How to keep the targets from falling back down after they are reset?
(2) Should I not use hooded style targets (i.e. use tombstone style instead?)
(3) Should I replace the coil sleeves for each of the four reset banks?
(4) Do you typically need to replace the target return springs when
using new drop targets? If only some of the targets were functioning bad, I would think this would be the case but since they all suck I think not.
On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:56:51 PM UTC-7, Mark wrote:
I installed a new set of drop targets on Meteor, they are the hooded (aka chicklet) style from Planetary Pinball.
For the M-E-T-E-O-R targets at the top, each drop target switch is opened
when the target is up and the switch closes when the target is is in the
down position.
When I press the credit button to start a game, the following sequence occurs:
The METEOR targets reset up and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible)
The sequence 2-2-2 targets reset once and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible.
The next next two alternate indefinitely (until I power off the game):
The bank of 1-1-1 drop targets are reset, they fall down
The bank of 3-3-3 drop targets are reset, then they fall down
My top questions are
(1) How to keep the targets from falling back down after they are reset?
(2) Should I not use hooded style targets (i.e. use tombstone style instead?)
(3) Should I replace the coil sleeves for each of the four reset banks?
(4) Do you typically need to replace the target return springs when
using new drop targets? If only some of the targets were functioning bad, I would think this would be the case but since they all suck I think not.
Thanks for all responses to date.
I installed the targets from Planetary Pinball primarily because they are hot stamped. Since they are no good, I will have to install targets from another vender that uses stickers for the numbers and letters.
Please let me know if I should order and install the drop targets shown
on the left or the right in the following picture:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B3M_vS9ElafYxHIFeoAvFb2cp2dc_T-q/view?usp=sharing
Thank you!
I installed the targets from Planetary Pinball primarily because they
are hot stamped. Since they are no good, I will have to install
targets from another vendor that uses stickers for the numbers and
letters.
On 2020/07/13 6:52 p.m., Mark wrote:
On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:56:51 PM UTC-7, Mark wrote:
I installed a new set of drop targets on Meteor, they are the hooded (aka chicklet) style from Planetary Pinball.
For the M-E-T-E-O-R targets at the top, each drop target switch is opened >> when the target is up and the switch closes when the target is is in the >> down position.
When I press the credit button to start a game, the following sequence occurs:
The METEOR targets reset up and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible)
The sequence 2-2-2 targets reset once and slide down (such that none of the targets are visible.
The next next two alternate indefinitely (until I power off the game):
The bank of 1-1-1 drop targets are reset, they fall down
The bank of 3-3-3 drop targets are reset, then they fall down
My top questions are
(1) How to keep the targets from falling back down after they are reset? >>
(2) Should I not use hooded style targets (i.e. use tombstone style instead?)
(3) Should I replace the coil sleeves for each of the four reset banks?
(4) Do you typically need to replace the target return springs when
using new drop targets? If only some of the targets were functioning bad, I would think this would be the case but since they all suck I think not.
Thanks for all responses to date.
I installed the targets from Planetary Pinball primarily because they are hot stamped. Since they are no good, I will have to install targets from another vender that uses stickers for the numbers and letters.
Please let me know if I should order and install the drop targets shown
on the left or the right in the following picture:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B3M_vS9ElafYxHIFeoAvFb2cp2dc_T-q/view?usp=sharing
Thank you!
You want the one with the extended bar on the right. Where did you find them?
John :-#)#
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Mark wrote:Hmm, not my recollection of Stern Meteor when new on the street. The
I installed the targets from Planetary Pinball primarily because they
are hot stamped. Since they are no good, I will have to install
targets from another vendor that uses stickers for the numbers and
letters.
The original drops were stickers.
You can modify the banks to use the Bally style targets but you should > use stern style if you can.
The hooded work like crap as the 1-2-3 targets though. Meteor was the machine where Stern transitioned from the Chichlet to the
Flattops/hooded, but the 1-2-3 rockets were always Chichlet. The top meteor bank is where they put in the flattops to avoid ball hangups.
Really, all the repro target makers have to do is add the rib somehow to
the mold and they'll be ok, although the drops of today have something > strange about the plastic they're been using and they are more prone to
bricking. I keep and reuse vintage drops for exactly this reason in
Bally and Stern games.
Some of the vendors like to spout some unbelievable Bullshit as well
when you call them out on this stuff - claiming that "drops when the machines were new were just as bad".
No; no, they weren't.
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