• AI and BBSing

    From claw@21:1/210 to All on Friday, September 15, 2023 08:07:42
    Has any one considered adding AI an option to their BBS? having am in house chat system with AI responses? I looked at it and the programing is s bit above my skill. Would like to see it though.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to claw on Friday, September 15, 2023 08:16:30
    Re: AI and BBSing
    By: claw to All on Fri Sep 15 2023 08:07 am

    Has any one considered adding AI an option to their BBS? having am in house chat system with AI responses? I looked at it and the programing is s bit above my skill. Would like to see it though.

    There have been some pseudo-attempts at AI chat doors in the past. Eliza was an older one, and Synchronet has 'The Guru' (I think). I haven't raelly looked into an AI chat bot, but I'm sure it could be done. It seems ChatGPT must have a web API, because I've seen someone set up a script or something that was using ChatGPT to reply to certain messages in another BBS message network.

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  • From Tracker1@21:3/149 to claw on Friday, September 15, 2023 19:43:09
    Has any one considered adding AI an option to their BBS? having am in house chat system with AI responses? I looked at it and the programing is s bit above my skill. Would like to see it though.

    I think someone had a bot that would post to some of the message areas as "Chad Gipiti" or something like that (ChatGPT)... I'd thought about doing what you are suggesting with a chat bot of "Elle Elim" (LLM) as the name, but would need a much smaller model so that it would be able to use CPU execution and not take a ton of memory. I hadn't really dug into it though. You'd really need to either make requests to an external service, or write your own terminal/console application to use as the chat bot itself, outside synchronet/js.

    It's definitely doable though. That said, it could be easy to overwhelm a system's resources, or incure some significant costs.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Nightfox on Saturday, September 16, 2023 06:20:00
    There have been some pseudo-attempts at AI chat doors in the past. Eliza

    Eliza was pretty good for her time, used to be a few versions kicking around when I first hit pooters at high school, but she's showing her age. There's also a pretty long in the tooth AICHAT which simulates chatting with a Sysop.

    AIchat has customisable chat options and statements, but if you get it off track or confused it will pop out something like "my hover craft is full of eels". I used to use it as, chat to co-sysop. I've considered trying to rebuild it as a help system...

    Spec


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to claw on Friday, September 15, 2023 16:54:48
    Has any one considered adding AI an option to their BBS? having am in house chat system with AI responses? I looked at it and the programing
    is s bit above my skill. Would like to see it though.

    I don't wanna speak too soon, or anything, but I've been working on implementing the openai API and feeding it the Mystic docs, whatsnew.txt and other sources and only respond with answers from that dataset.

    If I continue to do well with it, I'd like to wrap it in bots for Matrix, Discord and Mystic to let users ask Mystic questions... I could throw it on GitHub is anyone wants to help; I'm just learning the api thru Python.



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  • From Dr. What@21:1/616 to claw on Saturday, September 16, 2023 08:19:19
    claw wrote to All <=-

    Has any one considered adding AI an option to their BBS? having am in house chat system with AI responses? I looked at it and the programing
    is s bit above my skill. Would like to see it though.

    I think there's an ELIZA door somewhere.


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to paulie420 on Saturday, September 16, 2023 12:16:08
    implementing the openai API and feeding it the Mystic docs, whatsnew.txt and other sources and only respond with answers from that dataset.

    I suppose you've amassed a bit of a collection of helpful posts, too, if memory serves.

    So, certainly, it _would_ be awfully neat if there could be a moderately useful implementation.

    Though wrong answers are always a problem, of course.

    Discord and Mystic to let users ask Mystic questions... I could throw it on GitHub is anyone wants to help; I'm just learning the api thru Python.

    I mean, of _course_ you should throw it on GitHub so people can look at it, even if no one ends up helping. :)

    (No pressure, though, but if you're willing to have it out there, then it seems likely to be a net positive.)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to paulie420 on Sunday, September 17, 2023 09:03:00
    paulie420 wrote to claw <=-

    If I continue to do well with it, I'd like to wrap it in bots for
    Matrix, Discord and Mystic to let users ask Mystic questions... I could throw it on GitHub is anyone wants to help; I'm just learning the api
    thru Python.

    There was a similar synchronet bot. It was intriguing, but was patently
    wrong some times - not something you want in a support board.

    Don't get me wrong - I'm all for it, I think it's the direction support
    is going. I'm looking forward to LLMs instead of the current generation
    of support bots.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Dr. What on Sunday, September 17, 2023 09:04:00
    Dr. What wrote to claw <=-

    I think there's an ELIZA door somewhere.

    That's interesting that you think there's an ELIZA door somewhere. Can
    you tell me what makes you think there's an ELIZA door somewhere?



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, September 17, 2023 18:40:20
    There was a similar synchronet bot. It was intriguing, but was patently wrong some times - not something you want in a support board.

    Don't get me wrong - I'm all for it, I think it's the direction support
    is going. I'm looking forward to LLMs instead of the current generation
    of support bots.

    I've been getting similar results, but still just fun playing w/ the api...

    Better for some help site for writing books, code or bash scripts - but same less than wonderful output, et. all... we're getting there, tho.



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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Nightfox on Tuesday, September 19, 2023 07:41:10
    On 18 Sep 2023, Nightfox said the following...
    It was the one posting as "Chad Jipiti" on Dove-Net. I believe echicken (of Electronic Chicken BBS) created that.

    Nightfox

    I will have to check it out. I will look up Electronic Chicken BBS. Thanks for the tip!

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Vorlon on Tuesday, September 19, 2023 07:42:58
    On 19 Sep 2023, Vorlon said the following...
    I watched with anoyance the mess that chad made. Some users didn't know
    it was a ai bot... The thing stood out like a sore thumb, and was easy
    to spot. I'm not a sync sysop, but could easly see it's errors.

    Thankfully it's no longer running around.


    All the More reason to put it in it's own local message base and leave it there.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Nightfox on Tuesday, September 19, 2023 08:09:00
    Nightfox wrote to claw <=-

    It was the one posting as "Chad Jipiti" on Dove-Net. I believe
    echicken (of Electronic Chicken BBS) created that.

    I didn't recall the last name - that's quite funny!



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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Vorlon on Tuesday, September 19, 2023 08:39:04
    Re: Re: AI and BBSing
    By: Vorlon to Nightfox on Tue Sep 19 2023 10:12 am

    It was the one posting as "Chad Jipiti" on Dove-Net. I believe echicken
    (of Electronic Chicken BBS) created that.

    I watched with anoyance the mess that chad made. Some users didn't know it was a ai bot... The thing stood out like a sore thumb, and was easy to spot. I'm not a sync sysop, but could easly see it's errors.

    Thankfully it's no longer running around.

    Yeah, it gave a lot of wrong answers, which isn't good for people looking for help and don't realize it's an AI bot.

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/196 to claw on Thursday, September 21, 2023 10:12:33
    Hi Claw,

    On Tuesday September 19 2023, Claw said to Vorlon:

    I watched with anoyance the mess that chad made. Some users didn't
    know it was a ai bot... The thing stood out like a sore thumb, and was
    easy to spot. I'm not a sync sysop, but could easly see it's errors.
    Thankfully it's no longer running around.

    All the More reason to put it in it's own local message base and leave
    it there.

    Then it wont have anything to feed off and will starve! #-;

    Got to feed the little ai that thinks it's not a ai...


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  • From Vorlon@21:1/196 to Nightfox on Thursday, September 21, 2023 10:13:35
    Hi Nightfox,

    On Tuesday September 19 2023, Nightfox said to Vorlon:

    I watched with anoyance the mess that chad made. Some users didn't
    know it was a ai bot... The thing stood out like a sore thumb, and was
    easy to spot. I'm not a sync sysop, but could easly see it's errors.

    Thankfully it's no longer running around.

    Yeah, it gave a lot of wrong answers, which isn't good for people
    looking for help and don't realize it's an AI bot.

    Ec should have text at the top of messages saying that it was a ai generated message and might contain error.

    The first that that gave it away, was how "wordy" the messages tended to be, and it was just blabbering along. ^';

    There really isn't enough food for it on a bbs message network...



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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to claw on Friday, September 22, 2023 12:26:25
    Has any one considered adding AI an option to their BBS? having am in house chat system with AI responses? I looked at it and the programing
    is s bit above my skill. Would like to see it though.

    I think there is one BBS that incorporated ChatGPT text terminal into the board's experience.

    -h1

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  • From unc0nnected@21:1/172 to hollowone on Friday, September 22, 2023 21:25:34
    Has any one considered adding AI an option to their BBS? having am i house chat system with AI responses? I looked at it and the programin is s bit above my skill. Would like to see it though.

    I think there is one BBS that incorporated ChatGPT text terminal into the board's experience.

    Remember which one?

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to unc0nnected on Sunday, September 24, 2023 13:41:15
    Remember which one?
    I think it was TQW, but I'll double check
    Just checked, couldn't find it anywhere. The search continues!

    My fault. I double cheked and it was Xibalba (Enigma's flagship board). One of the doors is the actually chatGPT integration. It's just a client, so you can chat like in the web. I believe though this could go far further.

    -h1

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to hollowone on Monday, September 25, 2023 07:39:52
    On 22 Sep 2023, hollowone said the following...

    I think there is one BBS that incorporated ChatGPT text terminal into the board's experience.

    -h1

    Do you remember which one it was?

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to claw on Monday, September 25, 2023 06:14:24
    Do you remember which one it was?

    DrClaw
    Sysop Noverdu BBS Radio@HTTP://Noverdu.com:88

    https://xibalba.leet.codes and you know it :>

    -h1

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to hollowone on Tuesday, September 26, 2023 07:32:15
    On 25 Sep 2023, hollowone said the following...

    Do you remember which one it was?

    DrClaw
    Sysop Noverdu BBS Radio@HTTP://Noverdu.com:88

    https://xibalba.leet.codes and you know it :>

    -h1

    Hmm doesn't come up is that a website or a BBS?

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to claw on Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:06:08
    https://xibalba.leet.codes and you know it :>
    Hmm doesn't come up is that a website or a BBS?

    Dude, are you new to all this stuff? should I create user for you or you just browse through the website and find the right telnet port yourself?

    -h1

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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to hollowone on Tuesday, September 26, 2023 17:56:39
    On 26 Sep 2023, hollowone said the following...

    Dude, are you new to all this stuff? should I create user for you or you just browse through the website and find the right telnet port yourself?

    maybe next time you type in your own hostname correctly

    leet = l33t

    "are you new to all this stuff?"

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  • From unc0nnected@21:1/117 to hollowone on Tuesday, September 26, 2023 20:15:47
    My fault. I double cheked and it was Xibalba (Enigma's flagship board). One of the doors is the actually chatGPT integration. It's just a
    client, so you can chat like in the web. I believe though this could go far further.

    Thanks for circling back, can't wait to check this out. Already have a ton
    of ideas on where this could be taken

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to hollowone on Wednesday, September 27, 2023 07:43:38
    The site didn't pull up as a web page when I tried it. I know what https is but when it didnt' work I assumed there was something I didn't know

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to fusion on Wednesday, September 27, 2023 11:41:14
    maybe next time you type in your own hostname correctly

    leet = l33t

    I'm pretty sure the owner of the host name may be interested in your comments.

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to unc0nnected on Wednesday, September 27, 2023 11:42:39
    Thanks for circling back, can't wait to check this out. Already have a ton of ideas on where this could be taken

    Yeah.. it's quite neat. Once you get used to scroll back to grab back the whole history to local file, it may become your favorite chatgpt client.

    -h1

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to claw on Wednesday, September 27, 2023 11:45:13
    The site didn't pull up as a web page when I tried it. I know what https is but when it didnt' work I assumed there was something I didn't know

    No worries. Xibalba doesn't come with the most convenient URL, but still relatively easy to google so I assumed it shouldn't be a challenge.

    Apparently it is, especially if I consider a groupie in a defense line trying to beat my smart-ass level to support ya :>

    -h1

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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to hollowone on Wednesday, September 27, 2023 15:44:27
    On 27 Sep 2023, hollowone said the following...

    Apparently it is, especially if I consider a groupie in a defense line trying to beat my smart-ass level to support ya :>

    lol you made a mistake typing the hostname and then were a jackass when the hostname clearly didn't work. talking about google or whatever is unrelated.

    ironically now the correct hostname doesn't work right away because the SSL certificate is expired. nice.

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  • From unc0nnected@21:1/172 to hollowone on Wednesday, September 27, 2023 21:17:37
    Yeah.. it's quite neat. Once you get used to scroll back to grab back
    the whole history to local file, it may become your favorite chatgpt client.

    Definitely blew away my expectations for a GPT interface on a BBS but got a long way to go before it replaces the web experienced with all of my past conversations on the left and the GPT 4 apps available from the drop down.
    But it has me thinking about places one can take it. One challenge is the resolution / font size one usually uses on a BBS forces you to do to a metric tonne of scrolling to go back through the conversation.

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  • From Tracker1@21:3/149 to claw on Sunday, October 01, 2023 17:59:13
    I hadn't really dug into it though. You'd really need to either
    make requests to an external service, or write your own
    terminal/console application to use as the chat bot itself, outside
    synchronet/js.

    It's definitely doable though. That said, it could be easy to
    overwhelm a system's resources, or incure some significant costs.

    What kind of rescource cost are we talking about 8 - 16 cores and 16G ram or much more?

    Depending on the LLM, yes... Many/most LLMS run on GPU hardware, and the good ones need a card with 16gb or more ram on that GPU in order to run. Even a "low" memory, CPU based LLM will generally want at least a couple cores and a few gigs of ram, so if you're running multiple conversations it's entirely possible to hit those kinds of limits.


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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Tracker1 on Monday, October 02, 2023 07:41:32
    On 01 Oct 2023, Tracker1 said the following...
    Depending on the LLM, yes... Many/most LLMS run on GPU hardware, and the good ones need a card with 16gb or more ram on that GPU in order to run. Even a "low" memory, CPU based LLM will generally want at least a couple cores and a few gigs of ram, so if you're running multiple conversations it's entirely possible to hit those kinds of limits.

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    Interesting. That makes sense so you need something like a 6950 with loads of ram?

    That explains why no one is doing this. Dedicate a peice of hardward like that to a BBS. nope.

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  • From unc0nnected@21:1/172 to claw on Tuesday, October 03, 2023 20:04:32
    Depending on the LLM, yes... Many/most LLMS run on GPU hardware, and good ones need a card with 16gb or more ram on that GPU in order to r Even a "low" memory, CPU based LLM will generally want at least a cou cores and a few gigs of ram, so if you're running multiple conversati
    Interesting. That makes sense so you need something like a 6950 with
    loads of ram?
    That explains why no one is doing this. Dedicate a peice of hardward
    like that to a BBS. nope.

    Alternatively you could just get credits at openai.com and go directly
    through chatGPT's API. If you limited it to GPT3 the costs would be fairly minimal, around $0.002 for 750 words or so or 20 cents for 75,000 words and
    you could just cap it at $10/month for safety.

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to unc0nnected on Wednesday, October 04, 2023 07:42:38
    On 03 Oct 2023, unc0nnected said the following...
    Alternatively you could just get credits at openai.com and go directly through chatGPT's API. If you limited it to GPT3 the costs would be fairly minimal, around $0.002 for 750 words or so or 20 cents for
    75,000 words and you could just cap it at $10/month for safety.

    Unc0nnected @ Bottomless Abyss BBS ®bbs.bottomlessabyss.net:2023¯


    So rent an AI. Hmmm interesting wonder how hard it would be to work with the API to get it to work inside a message base

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  • From unc0nnected@21:1/172 to claw on Wednesday, October 04, 2023 20:43:17
    Alternatively you could just get credits at openai.com and go directl through chatGPT's API. If you limited it to GPT3 the costs would be fairly minimal, around $0.002 for 750 words or so or 20 cents for 75,000 words and you could just cap it at $10/month for safety.

    So rent an AI. Hmmm interesting wonder how hard it would be to work with the API to get it to work inside a message base

    That's the question for sure. I know that working with the API in other settings has been fairly easy and for anything I had trouble with I just
    asked ChatGPT for help and by the 3rd or 4th try had everything working

    Unc0nnected @ Bottomless Abyss BBS ®bbs.bottomlessabyss.net:2023¯

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to unc0nnected on Thursday, October 05, 2023 01:51:41
    So rent an AI. Hmmm interesting wonder how hard it would be to work w the API to get it to work inside a message base

    That's the question for sure. I know that working with the API in other settings has been fairly easy and for anything I had trouble with I just asked ChatGPT for help and by the 3rd or 4th try had everything working

    I think you should contact noskooler who runs Xibalba and Enigma development. I'm sure his integration into his board was indeed done by APIs.

    -h1

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to hollowone on Thursday, October 05, 2023 08:20:23
    On 05 Oct 2023, hollowone said the following...
    I think you should contact noskooler who runs Xibalba and Enigma development. I'm sure his integration into his board was indeed done by APIs.

    -h1

    Sweet a BBS with AI? Thanks for the point in the right direction

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to claw on Thursday, October 05, 2023 12:47:16
    Re: Re: AI and BBSing
    By: claw to unc0nnected on Wed Oct 04 2023 07:42 am

    So rent an AI. Hmmm interesting wonder how hard it would be to work with the API to get it to work inside a message base

    echicken (sysop of Electronic Chicken BBS) seems to have written something for Synchronet to read messages from Synchronet's messagebases and have ChatGPT generate a response, then post its response to Synchronet's messagebase. This is possible because Synchronet allows scripting with JavaScript and provides access to its messagebases via JavaScript.

    Nightfox
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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Nightfox on Friday, October 06, 2023 10:23:24
    On 05 Oct 2023, Nightfox said the following...
    echicken (sysop of Electronic Chicken BBS) seems to have written
    something for Synchronet to read messages from Synchronet's messagebases and have ChatGPT generate a response, then post its response to Synchronet's messagebase. This is possible because Synchronet allows scripting with JavaScript and provides access to its messagebases via JavaScript.

    Nightfox

    This sounds so cool. I will have to check it out.

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  • From unc0nnected@21:1/164 to claw on Saturday, October 07, 2023 02:06:18
    Re: Re: AI and BBSing
    By: claw to Nightfox on Fri Oct 06 2023 10:23:24

    echicken (sysop of Electronic Chicken BBS) seems to have written
    something for Synchronet to read messages from Synchronet's
    messagebases and have ChatGPT generate a response, then post its
    response to Synchronet's messagebase. This is possible because

    Thanks for sharing, led me to find another cool BBS and check it out. I imagine a day in the future where all of our BBS's are still running, populated by AI's talking to each other, long after we've died and turn to dust
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to unc0nnected on Monday, October 09, 2023 11:11:01
    Re: Re: AI and BBSing
    By: unc0nnected to claw on Sat Oct 07 2023 02:06 am

    N echicken (sysop of Electronic Chicken BBS) seems to have written
    N something for Synchronet to read messages from Synchronet's
    N messagebases and have ChatGPT generate a response, then post its
    N response to Synchronet's messagebase. This is possible because

    Thanks for sharing, led me to find another cool BBS and check it out. I

    I wrote what you quoted, but you were responding to claw's message..

    Nightfox
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  • From unc0nnected@21:1/172 to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 25, 2023 22:03:20
    Thanks for sharing, led me to find another cool BBS and check it out.

    and the circle of life continues

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to unc0nnected on Thursday, October 26, 2023 09:16:04
    Re: Re: AI and BBSing
    By: unc0nnected to Nightfox on Wed Oct 25 2023 10:03 pm

    Thanks for sharing, led me to find another cool BBS and check it out.

    and the circle of life continues

    You're replying to me, but you quoted someone else...

    Nightfox
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