• os/2

    From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to All on Thursday, August 04, 2022 15:55:31
    I am pondering buying a licence for os/2. if its just for running old dos games or running a bbs it seems like a perfect idea.

    questions:
    is there any cloud browsers for os/2?
    and can i use firefox 45 the last ported version for basic browsing?


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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Utopian Galt on Thursday, August 04, 2022 16:07:21
    I am pondering buying a licence for os/2. if its just for running old
    dos games or running a bbs it seems like a perfect idea.

    When you say os/2, do you mean ArcaOS? That's the latest/greatest incarnation of os/2 and I can confirm it's pretty stable and does DOS things well.

    is there any cloud browsers for os/2?

    Cloud browsers? You mean like dropbox, google drive, etc?

    and can i use firefox 45 the last ported version for basic browsing?

    I can't remember which Firefox I have on my ArcaOS box but it does web browsing well enough. I'd never put it side by side with a more typical modern OS as far as web browsing is concerned, but it gets the job done.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Utopian Galt on Thursday, August 04, 2022 16:30:12
    Re: os/2
    By: Utopian Galt to All on Thu Aug 04 2022 03:55 pm

    I am pondering buying a licence for os/2. if its just for running old dos games or running a bbs it seems like a perfect idea.

    Does anyone even sell OS/2 licenses anymore? OS/2 is old software and has been replaced by newer things (such as ArcaOS, which is basically a newer version of OS/2 since IBM transferred ownership). So if you want to be legit with it, I'd think your only options would be to buy ArcaOS and run it on supported hardware, or perhaps buy a used copy of OS/2 if that's what you really want. If you use OS/2 though, any money you pay for it probably isn't going to go to the original developers.

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Esc on Thursday, August 04, 2022 17:10:01
    BY: esc(21:4/173)


    When you say os/2, do you mean ArcaOS? That's the latest/greatest incarnation of os/2 and I can confirm it's pretty stable and does DOS
    things well.
    Yes, ArcaOS. Im kinda thinking Windows bbsing isnt really my thing and Im not really into Linux.

    I was pondering Elebbs/2 with fmail/2 running D'Bridge.

    Cloud browsers? You mean like dropbox, google drive, etc?
    Yup


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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Utopian Galt on Thursday, August 04, 2022 21:49:18
    Yes, ArcaOS. Im kinda thinking Windows bbsing isnt really my thing and
    Im not really into Linux.

    So does ArcaOS have to be run on an older machine? Ive been thinking the same lately. Im not a big windows fan, tried linux a little, but did not know I had any other option like ArcaOS.

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  • From Andrew Leary@21:4/105 to Utopian Galt on Friday, August 05, 2022 00:11:48
    Hello Utopian!

    04 Aug 22 17:10, you wrote to Esc:

    I was pondering Elebbs/2 with fmail/2 running D'Bridge.

    I'm using EleBBS/OS2 with FastEcho/2 and BTXE; I see no reason why the combination you list above wouldn't work fine also.

    Andrew

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  • From Andrew Leary@21:4/105 to Irish_Monk on Friday, August 05, 2022 00:13:24
    Hello Irish_Monk!

    04 Aug 22 21:49, you wrote to Utopian Galt:

    So does ArcaOS have to be run on an older machine? Ive been thinking
    the same lately. Im not a big windows fan, tried linux a little, but
    did not know I had any other option like ArcaOS.

    ArcaOS has had a bunch of work done on it for compatibility with modern hardware. I believe the next major release (5.1) is even supposed to support booting/running on UEFI systems without requiring a CSM.

    Andrew

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Irish_Monk on Thursday, August 04, 2022 22:24:48
    So does ArcaOS have to be run on an older machine? Ive been thinking the same lately. Im not a big windows fan, tried linux a little, but did not know I had any other option like ArcaOS.

    I have it running on a recent-ish intel nuc, bare metal hardware, no vm or anything. I will say that as far as I know right now you won't be able to use secure boot but other than that it should run on most modern stuff.

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Andrew Leary on Thursday, August 04, 2022 22:11:29
    BY: Andrew Leary(21:4/105)


    booting/running on UEFI systems without requiring a CSM.
    what is a csm?


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Utopian Galt on Friday, August 05, 2022 19:09:00
    On 08-04-22 15:55, Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-

    I am pondering buying a licence for os/2. if its just for running old
    dos games or running a bbs it seems like a perfect idea.

    questions:
    is there any cloud browsers for os/2?
    and can i use firefox 45 the last ported version for basic browsing?

    I read in an OS/2 Facebook group the other day that there will be a new browser for OS/2 soon, based on Chromium.


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  • From Andrew Leary@21:4/105 to Utopian Galt on Friday, August 05, 2022 07:07:53
    Hello Utopian!

    04 Aug 22 22:11, you wrote to me:

    booting/running on UEFI systems without requiring a CSM.
    what is a csm?

    Compatibility Support Module -- It basically emulates a traditional PC BIOS for operating systems that won't run without one.

    Andrew

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Andrew Leary on Friday, August 05, 2022 07:39:42
    hardware. I believe the next major release (5.1) is even supposed to support booting/running on UEFI systems without requiring a CSM.

    Thats definitely some good info there! Thank you very much! Another little project I need to put on the list.

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to esc on Friday, August 05, 2022 07:44:39
    I have it running on a recent-ish intel nuc, bare metal hardware, no vm
    or anything. I will say that as far as I know right now you won't be
    able to use secure boot but other than that it should run on most modern stuff.

    I appreciate the info. I cant believe I didnt think to use BBS's for 28 years. Lots of awesome info on here and just good person to person conversation!!!

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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to Vk3jed on Friday, August 05, 2022 08:17:12
    On 05 Aug 2022, Vk3jed said the following...

    I read in an OS/2 Facebook group the other day that there will be a new browser for OS/2 soon, based on Chromium.

    this has been the same story since netscape 2.02

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Irish_Monk on Friday, August 05, 2022 07:58:03
    On 04 Aug 2022, Irish_Monk said the following...
    So does ArcaOS have to be run on an older machine? Ive been thinking the same lately. Im not a big windows fan, tried linux a little, but did not know I had any other option like ArcaOS.

    Irish_Monk

    By the looks of it it should run on modern hardware, however its 32bit. This mean the 32bit memory limit kicks in and you will only have access to ~3.3gig of ram even if your system has more. Partitions are limited and I don't remember how large they can be. and last files cannot be large than 2 gig.

    looks like you can run it in a VM so you could still have the underlying power untied with a decent OS. Try Manjaro, or PopOS. Both are decent if your newer to Linux.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to claw on Friday, August 05, 2022 09:06:16
    Re: Re: os/2
    By: claw to Irish_Monk on Fri Aug 05 2022 07:58 am

    By the looks of it it should run on modern hardware, however its 32bit. This mean the 32bit memory limit kicks in and you will only have access to ~3.3gig of ram even if your system has more. Partitions are limited and I

    I briefly had a look at the ArcaOS web site, and they say it supports 64-bit hardware. Though I'm not sure if that means they have a 64-bit version, or if they're saying that because a 32-bit OS is capable of running on a 64-bit PC.

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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to Nightfox on Friday, August 05, 2022 13:54:10
    On 05 Aug 2022, Nightfox said the following...

    I briefly had a look at the ArcaOS web site, and they say it supports 64-bit hardware. Though I'm not sure if that means they have a 64-bit version, or if they're saying that because a 32-bit OS is capable of running on a 64-bit PC.

    it is specifically the latter. afaik they have no kernel source code whatsoever, so certain things they will never be able to improve.
    that will only become more tricky because whoever wrote most of OS/2 at IBM knew the most obscure things about the Intel CPUs and made use of *all* of them. it is unlikely to work on anything non-intel or non-amd. which was more
    a thing in the past with like cyrix and some of the 486 upgrades, but will
    rear it's head again as x86 cpus remove support for old 16-bit virtualization (16-bit code is all over the place in OS/2 drivers, etc)

    this is why i don't bother with it on real hardware, just VirtualBox.. much more enjoyable, just as stable, and just to poke a stick, real os/2 and not that ArcaOS bloat lol

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to claw on Friday, August 05, 2022 11:08:58
    By the looks of it it should run on modern hardware, however its 32bit. This mean the 32bit memory limit kicks in and you will only have access
    to ~3.3gig of ram even if your system has more. Partitions are limited and I don't remember how large they can be. and last files cannot be large than 2 gig.

    I haven't run into any issues with partition size, and as far as memory is concerned, I have two 2gb ram sticks in my computer and it runs great. I think this is an issue of simply not needing any more for this purpose.

    looks like you can run it in a VM so you could still have the underlying power untied with a decent OS. Try Manjaro, or PopOS. Both are decent
    if your newer to Linux.

    I've tested running it in a VM as well as running it on bare metal, and it's night and day. I would suggest running on bare metal for sure.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Nightfox on Friday, August 05, 2022 11:13:27
    I briefly had a look at the ArcaOS web site, and they say it supports 64-bit hardware. Though I'm not sure if that means they have a 64-bit version, or if they're saying that because a 32-bit OS is capable of running on a 64-bit PC.

    The real value prop of ArcaOS for me is the DOS compatibility, in which case the 32-bit OS is actually a benefit.

    The 5.1 release will support 64 bit secure boot and then will basically bootstrap into the 32 bit OS. This is a reductive explanation for what's actually going on but I think it gets the point across. But since all ArcaOS applications are 32 bit anyway, it wouldn't make much sense for them to be truly 64 bit. Hope that makes sense.

    But to summarize, the cool part of the upcoming 5.1 release is that you'll be able to use modern hardware and bootstrap into an environment with full DOS compatibility.

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Esc on Friday, August 05, 2022 16:33:33
    BY: esc(21:4/173)


    But to summarize, the cool part of the upcoming 5.1 release is that
    you'll be able to use modern hardware and bootstrap into an environment
    with full DOS compatibility.
    Guess I'll wait for 5.1 before plopping my 129.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Utopian Galt on Friday, August 05, 2022 07:40:00
    Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-

    I am pondering buying a licence for os/2. if its just for running old
    dos games or running a bbs it seems like a perfect idea.

    If you mean OS/2, you should be able to find copies at rummage sales, thrift shops, and so on - I bought a copy of OS/2 Warp 3 for $3, with shrinkwrap.

    The current iteration is more expensive.

    is there any cloud browsers for os/2?
    and can i use firefox 45 the last ported version for basic browsing?

    There are browsers, not sure how recent the OS is supported. There are some OS/2 heads in Micronet and Fidonet who may know more.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to esc on Saturday, August 06, 2022 07:25:00
    esc wrote to Nightfox <=-

    The real value prop of ArcaOS for me is the DOS compatibility, in which case the 32-bit OS is actually a benefit.

    I loved OS/2 for its DOS compatibility. I was a Novell sysadmin at the time, and all of the admin tools were DOS console-based apps. OS/2 could handle
    all of them running with ease.

    At home, I ran OS/2 on my desktop and DOS on the BBS. I had a LANtastic network and was able to make a MS-DOS VDM to support it, since there was no native support.

    Later on, I got rid of the dedicated BBS box and ran OS/2 native apps on my desktop, ran wonderfully.

    But to summarize, the cool part of the upcoming 5.1 release is that
    you'll be able to use modern hardware and bootstrap into an environment with full DOS compatibility.

    "A better DOS than DOS..."




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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, August 06, 2022 11:31:03
    At home, I ran OS/2 on my desktop and DOS on the BBS. I had a LANtastic network and was able to make a MS-DOS VDM to support it, since there was no native support.

    Later on, I got rid of the dedicated BBS box and ran OS/2 native apps on my desktop, ran wonderfully.

    I ran OS/2 ver.3 on my desktop without a problem. Upgraded to ver 4 and could not get my mouse to work. Went so far as to call IBM support. Before they would even let me talk to tech support, I had to pay them. That's when I dropped OS/2.

    ogg

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, August 06, 2022 13:55:01
    I loved OS/2 for its DOS compatibility. I was a Novell sysadmin at the time, and all of the admin tools were DOS console-based apps. OS/2
    could handle all of them running with ease.

    Yeah, it still seems to have perfect DOS compatibility for anything I've thrown at it. Pretty remarkable considering I'm able to run these things on bare metal with modern-ish hardware.

    At home, I ran OS/2 on my desktop and DOS on the BBS. I had a LANtastic network and was able to make a MS-DOS VDM to support it, since there was no native support.

    Interesting - one of the things I'm trying to figure out is how to have ArcaOS serve as a door game server. The missing piece for me is how to get it to listen for rlogin attempts and to do the auto-door-launch thing. If you have ideas here, I'm all ears :)

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, August 06, 2022 19:19:49
    thrift shops, and so on - I bought a copy of OS/2 Warp 3 for $3, with

    Some decent deals on Ebay right now too. Not as good as $3 but alot better than the 129.99.

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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to esc on Saturday, August 06, 2022 19:27:00
    On 06 Aug 2022, esc said the following...

    Interesting - one of the things I'm trying to figure out is how to have ArcaOS serve as a door game server. The missing piece for me is how to
    get it to listen for rlogin attempts and to do the auto-door-launch
    thing. If you have ideas here, I'm all ears :)

    if you're a savvy programmer (or know one) there's sample code for a fossil
    to named pipe bridge on hobbes (filename FossDummy_0-1.zip) .. this gets you only the dos side so you'd need to write a rlogin server to both generate dropfiles and service the other side of the named pipes the doors talk to.

    bright side of that is all of the serial i/o is fake without SIO and virtual com ports. downside is comport-only doors won't work (though you could emulate that stuff too the same way fossil is emulated in the example)

    this is essentially how netfos on win32 works..

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Utopian Galt on Saturday, August 06, 2022 15:45:03
    I am pondering buying a licence for os/2. if its just for running old
    dos games or running a bbs it seems like a perfect idea.

    There is a torrent, for testing and all.



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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to paulie420 on Saturday, August 06, 2022 20:18:39
    On 06 Aug 2022, paulie420 said the following...

    I am pondering buying a licence for os/2. if its just for running old dos games or running a bbs it seems like a perfect idea.

    There is a torrent, for testing and all.

    if it makes you feel better it would have been reasonably possible to use a copy of warp 4 as a demo from a magazine cover, copy some files over and apply some fixpacks and end up with a decent gray-area copy of os/2.. at least back in the day..

    iirc i originally paid like 3 or 400 for os/2 back in the day. if not exactly, basically with inflation.. so i don't really care what IBM thinks anymore cause that was quite a wad of cash for a 16 year old.. and we weren't the customer by the time Warp 4 rolled out anyways.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to fusion on Saturday, August 06, 2022 22:47:12
    if you're a savvy programmer (or know one) there's sample code for a fossil to named pipe bridge on hobbes (filename FossDummy_0-1.zip) ..
    this gets you only the dos side so you'd need to write a rlogin server
    to both generate dropfiles and service the other side of the named pipes the doors talk to.

    Interesting - I'll have to take a look at this. Thanks for the details here.

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to ogg on Sunday, August 07, 2022 08:48:00
    Hello ogg!

    ** On Saturday 06.08.22 - 11:31, ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

    I ran OS/2 ver.3 on my desktop without a problem. Upgraded
    to ver 4 and could not get my mouse to work. Went so far
    as to call IBM support. Before they would even let me talk
    to tech support, I had to pay them. That's when I dropped
    OS/2.

    But did you get the mouse working? Perhaps you found answers in
    a forum?


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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Ogg on Sunday, August 07, 2022 08:22:39
    I ran OS/2 ver.3 on my desktop without a problem. Upgraded
    to ver 4 and could not get my mouse to work. Went so far
    as to call IBM support. Before they would even let me talk
    to tech support, I had to pay them. That's when I dropped
    OS/2.

    But did you get the mouse working? Perhaps you found answers in
    a forum?

    I never did get it to work. Got so mad at IBM that I loaded Windows on it and never looked back.

    ogg

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to fusion on Sunday, August 07, 2022 11:21:05
    I am pondering buying a licence for os/2. if its just for runnin dos games or running a bbs it seems like a perfect idea.

    There is a torrent, for testing and all.

    if it makes you feel better it would have been reasonably possible to
    use a copy of warp 4 as a demo from a magazine cover, copy some files
    over and apply some fixpacks and end up with a decent gray-area copy of os/2.. at least back in the day..

    Trust me, I've both purchased and obtained so many softwarez over the years - but I think the ArcaOS project isn't IBM... while I wanted to take a peak at it first, I did buy a license since I wanted to use it in production. But I agree with you; data should be free - especially when we're talking about software that is 30 years old and runs on hardware that isn't current.

    At any rate... its an awesome time to be into retro computing.



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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to fusion on Monday, August 08, 2022 06:03:00
    bright side of that is all of the serial i/o is fake without SIO and virtual com ports. downside is comport-only doors won't work (though you could emulate that stuff too the same way fossil is emulated in the example)

    I have that "feature" with RLFOSSIL under DOS. So long as the doors play ball with a fossil they run, although I've hit the odd exception, and the ones
    that aren't fossil aware are dead in the water.

    Spec


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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Paulie420 on Sunday, August 07, 2022 14:29:05
    BY: paulie420(21:2/150)


    Trust me, I've both purchased and obtained so many softwarez over the
    years - but I think the ArcaOS project isn't IBM... while I wanted to
    take a peak at it first, I did buy a license since I wanted to use it in production. But I agree with you; data should be free - especially when we're talking about software that is 30 years old and runs on hardware
    that isn't current.
    ibm still wants a set licence fee for each copy. That is what is keeping the cost the cost.


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  • From Exodus@21:1/176 to Spectre on Sunday, August 07, 2022 22:46:00
    bright side of that is all of the serial i/o is fake without SIO and virtual com ports. downside is comport-only doors won't work (though yo could emulate that stuff too the same way fossil is emulated in the example)

    I have that "feature" with RLFOSSIL under DOS. So long as the doors play bal with a fossil they run, although I've hit the odd exception, and the ones that aren't fossil aware are dead in the water.

    That's why I setup a work around. I have another RG board setup that is running with NetSerial for JUST ComPort doors. Only bad port the user has to rlogin to it and enter their user name and password. No way to make it seemless ... yet.

    But that gives me access to run doors most others don't have and brings my total to up around 450-460ish LOCAL doors right now. Adding more as I find 'em.

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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to Exodus on Sunday, August 07, 2022 22:54:41
    That's why I setup a work around. I have another RG board setup that is running with NetSerial for JUST ComPort doors. Only bad port the user has to rlogin to it and enter their user name and password. No way to make it seemless ... yet.

    why not just run the whole board on netserial then?

    ... Evil triumphs when good people do nothing. - Einstein

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    * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (21:1/616)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to fusion on Monday, August 08, 2022 15:38:00
    On 08-05-22 08:17, fusion wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 05 Aug 2022, Vk3jed said the following...

    I read in an OS/2 Facebook group the other day that there will be a new browser for OS/2 soon, based on Chromium.

    this has been the same story since netscape 2.02

    Good luck finding a version of Chromium that old! :D


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    === MultiMail/Win v0.52
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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Exodus on Monday, August 08, 2022 23:01:00
    That's why I setup a work around. I have another RG board setup that is running with NetSerial for JUST ComPort doors. Only bad port the user has to rlogin to it and enter their user name and password. No way
    to make it seemless... yet.

    Can't say I know netserial, but I see it means you're running WinDoze.. don't have any of that anywhere near the BBS setup, just MS-DOS and a bunch of odd bash scripts for data manipulation on the NFS shares.

    I have to ask who's playing 350+ door games? Probably lucky to find 200
    good ones :P In dem good ol' days I had an alphabets worth, in the end I cut it back to 10 or so I think..cut down the dilution rate in the players there were.

    Spec


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to Spectre on Monday, August 08, 2022 10:51:27
    On 08 Aug 2022, Spectre said the following...

    I have to ask who's playing 350+ door games? Probably lucky to find 200 good ones :P In dem good ol' days I had an alphabets worth, in the end
    I cut it back to 10 or so I think..cut down the dilution rate in the players there were.

    guess it depends really.. you can get away with having a few dozen plain games like yahtzee or hangman. but i think the more time invested you need to be in a game.. nobody will play those games more than once if you have a ton of them.

    can always push the "tons of games" onto a third tier menu or something. hand pick some "good" stuff but if they insist they can dig around ;)

    ... BREAKFAST.COM Halted... Cereal port not responding.

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Spectre on Monday, August 08, 2022 19:59:10
    BY: Spectre(21:3/101)


    I have to ask who's playing 350+ door games? Probably lucky to find 200 good ones :P In dem good ol' days I had an alphabets worth, in the end
    I cut
    it back to 10 or so I think..cut down the dilution rate in the players
    there
    were.
    Yea, I feel quality beats quantity. I could install 50-100 door games but who really wants to visit them all?


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  • From Exodus@21:2/154 to Fusion on Monday, August 08, 2022 17:54:00

    That's why I setup a work around. I have another RG board setup
    that is Ex> running with NetSerial for JUST ComPort doors. Only bad
    port the user Ex> has to rlogin to it and enter their user name and password. No way to Ex> make it seemless ... yet.
    why not just run the whole board on netserial then?

    Did that before .... the system resources for having 4 nodes open all
    the time was crazy. Plus the stupid bots would tie up each node as
    there is no way to stop them on port 23 (and no, I am not changing
    ports). So I wrote RGBOT and went with net2BBS as the server so it
    loads as needed. And I only have to keep 1 node open with netserial and
    it's a local IP, so it has no access outside on this network

    Trust me, if there was an easier way, I would've done it.

    /s

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