• Re: Bleach Time!

    From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Saturday, August 14, 2021 20:47:00
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm

    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to fusion on Sun Mar 07 2021 06:25 pm

    yeah it's not yellow because it's aged, it's discolored from something else. i'd like to know what that something else is.

    i've had old stuff like that and it didnt yellow. i wonder if this is f smokers.

    I've heard some white plastics can turn yellow by being exposed to sunlight

    Nightfox


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sunday, August 15, 2021 09:59:36
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Sat Aug 14 2021 08:47 pm

    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm

    this is from last march
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Monday, August 16, 2021 12:42:01
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Aug 15 2021 09:59 am

    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm

    this is from last march

    Yep, that's indeed what the date says.
    ...and?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, August 16, 2021 21:11:15
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Aug 16 2021 12:42 pm

    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Aug 15 2021 09:59 am

    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm

    this is from last march

    Yep, that's indeed what the date says.
    ...and?


    it's almost 5 and a half months ago. we've moved on from that post.
    people shouldnt reply to old shit.

    that's your 'and'
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Monday, August 16, 2021 20:11:56
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Aug 16 2021 09:11 pm

    it's almost 5 and a half months ago. we've moved on from that post.
    people shouldnt reply to old shit.

    that's your 'and'

    Maybe they hadn't seen it yet. Not everyone reads Dove-Net every day. There are people who might not read Dove-Net for months and then check back.

    I'm wondering why it bothers you so much?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 09:00:07
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Aug 16 2021 08:11 pm

    Maybe they hadn't seen it yet. Not everyone reads Dove-Net every day.

    maybe they should update their msg pointers.

    There are people who might not read Dove-Net for months and then check back.

    I'm wondering why it bothers you so much?


    it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not reply to posts that are many months old.

    I'm wondering why it bothers you so much when i complain about it.
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  • From Ksource@VERT/MUTINY to MRO on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 03:28:01
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Aug 17 2021 09:00:07

    it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not reply to posts that are many months old.

    Well that's definitely not true. Reply to messages that are interesting
    and relevant, simple as that. God didn't come down from the heavens to
    tell people Thou Shalt Not Reply to Messages A Few Months Old. You're
    just making up useless etiquette rules where none exist.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ksource on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 08:56:06
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Ksource to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:28 am

    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Aug 17 2021 09:00:07

    it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not reply to posts that are many months old.

    Well that's definitely not true. Reply to messages that are interesting
    and relevant, simple as that. God didn't come down from the heavens to

    update your msg pointers so you dont necro post.

    thanks.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ksource on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 08:32:42
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Ksource to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:28 am

    it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not
    reply to posts that are many months old.

    Well that's definitely not true. Reply to messages that are interesting and relevant, simple as that. God didn't come down from the heavens to tell people Thou Shalt Not Reply to Messages A Few Months Old. You're
    just making up useless etiquette rules where none exist.

    Yep. If someone wants to talk about a particular subject, would it be better to start up a new thread, even though it has been discussed before?

    And if you're just looking for information, a forum search is often a good thing to do, as there might be an old thread that can provide some useful information.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 08:33:34
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to Ksource on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:56 am

    update your msg pointers so you dont necro post.

    So, if someone wants to discuss a particular subject, even if it has been discussed before, would it be better for them to start a new thread?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:30:35
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Nightfox to Ksource on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:32 am

    Yep. If someone wants to talk about a particular subject, would it be better to start up a new thread, even though it has been discussed before?

    yeah start a new thread instead of digging up an old one.

    christ, this is why forums lock shit.

    And if you're just looking for information, a forum search is often a good thing to do, as there might be an old thread that can provide some useful information.

    i'm not saying dont read old shit. but dont reply to it
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 15:47:44
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:33 am

    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to Ksource on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:56 am

    update your msg pointers so you dont necro post.

    So, if someone wants to discuss a particular subject, even if it has been discussed before, would it be better for them to start a new thread?

    Nightfox


    I think it is generally good ettiquete to start a new thread rather than necro a threat that has been cold for months. Specially if there is new information regarding it.

    I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasonable probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though. Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 21:38:57
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:47 pm

    I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasonable probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though. Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)


    i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
    when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if they'd like to update their msg pointers.

    almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing it by accident. these msgs are new to them, but not new and they dont realize it until later.

    i've done it myself.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 20:10:26
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Aug 18 2021 09:38 pm

    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:47 pm

    I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasonable probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though. Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)


    i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
    when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if they'd like to update their msg pointers.

    Each sysop has the option to set new users' message pointers however they like via SCFG->System->New User Values->Days of New Messages. I think the default value is 30 (days).

    almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing it by accident. these msgs are new to them, but not new and they dont realize it until later.

    i've done it myself.

    The BBS could warn or disallow responses to messages older than some specified age too. There's a lot of options for the enterprising sysop to pursue.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, August 19, 2021 07:13:37
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Aug 18 2021 09:38 pm

    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:47 pm

    I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasona probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)


    i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
    when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if they like to update their msg pointers.

    almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing it b accident. these msgs are new to them, but not new and they dont realize it until later.

    i've done it myself.

    Actually, this is somethign I have actually thought myself. Synchronet would benefit if there was an option for having the message pointers automatically set upon the registration of a new user. Right now, a new user that registers ends up having thousands of unread messages to check, onyl a small fraction of which are current enough to be worth checking.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Digital Man on Thursday, August 19, 2021 07:14:31
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:10 pm

    Each sysop has the option to set new users' message pointers however they li via SCFG->System->New User Values->Days of New Messages. I think the default value is 30 (days).


    That is awesome and we love you for that!

    How come I have not realized such thing was so :-(

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thursday, August 19, 2021 08:50:13
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:10 pm

    i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
    when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if they'd like to update their msg pointers.

    Each sysop has the option to set new users' message pointers however they like via SCFG->System->New User Values->Days of New Messages. I think the default value is 30 (days).

    almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing

    oh that's cool, i didnt know that. i just made my script that asks them.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, August 19, 2021 08:51:50
    Re: Re: Bleach Time!
    By: Arelor to MRO on Thu Aug 19 2021 07:13 am


    Actually, this is somethign I have actually thought myself. Synchronet would benefit if there was an option for having the message pointers automatically set upon the registration of a new user. Right now, a new user that registers ends up having thousands of unread messages to check, onyl a small fraction of which are current enough to be worth checking.



    yeah and a lot of bbses have several msg nets, so the average new user would get overload and just [q]uit.
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